I understand the negativity of the movie, it's a movie with no real target audience. The majority of the movie is set in court, it features Lady Gaga and it's a musical. But the effort they put into the actual film-making is insane, watch the movie and see what I mean. Y'know, I've seen worse movies than this and I think this is a bit overheated. And one thing I really like is that near the end of the movie, he doesn't want to be Joker because he knows he can't live a fantasy forever and can't put on an act. There is no second version of him, he's Arthur.