i didn't like this film it had a really bad joker the movie itself was good and they did really good at showing someone with mental illness but this movie is called the joker i didn't see a joker i just saw a depressed, awkward man with metal illness making crimes but he's just not a criminal mastermind which is what makes joker, joker. i can't seem to find the essence of his character i mean can you imagine this guy fighting batman? no you cant because it just doesn't make sense. anyways i'll just get to the point the character just wasn't the joker we all know and love but it was a man going insane. and this is just MY opinion