I will start with saying that I never seen the original joker movie. So i was going into not really knowing much. Buuuuuttttr as far as this movie goes, I'd say a negative 0 or as low as you can go. Did not make any sence to me. And it was so creepy i think I'm gonna have nightmares. And I'm upset that they ruined the dude from signs character for me now any time i see him in a movie in gonna hear the creepy laugh!!!