I've played elden ring, which was the first souls type game I have played. Learning all of the game play is ridiculous. Got to chapter 2 and I'm done, souls game play is not for me. Story and game play good. To many mechanics for me. Elden ring good as it's open world and you can grind levels out. Unless you want to repeat yourself over and over which is boring as. This goes for lies of p and lords of fallen.