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This particular segment with the Governor of North Dakota was a waste of the viewers time. This candidate is a big deal only in North Dakota which is yet another red state which is dependent on the federal government. North Dakota is irrelevant in the national discussion. It might as well be part of Canada. The governor has zero chance of being president. Why have him on just to be non partisan? Burgum won’t even win his own state. The interview of Phil Murphy made sense as a Biden surrogate. Overall MTP gives too much coverage to the extreme views of the far right crowd. The culture wars and allowing them to use coded language like state’s rights to opt out of how extreme their views are 6 week abortion ban.