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I don't know if that was a different universe or what, but definitely that joker was nothing as we know him, and the musical thing NO THANKS.
Joaquin Phoenix did a great job though, It's a shame the story was so bad.
Joker: Folie à Deux
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This film seems to be one more tool that seeks to program minds to not want to take care of individual privacy and intimacy, pushing concepts and ideas in good quotes, they only offer control to the governments and rich people of the world.