The fact that some people believe that noodly riffs and long song lengths are bad is just astounding. To call this album the lowest production value TooL has ever released is appalling. This is easily in the top 5 albums they have released, WITH A FOCUS ON MUSIC RATHER THAN MAKING IT EASY TO LISTEN TO. People who don't at least like the album clearly don't listen to TooL because they enjoy their music.