I find the male presenter an ignorant, rude and disrespectful interviewer, basically bullying the guests.
It’s very easy to point fingers at people trying to manage a complex and unprecedented scenario such as coronavirus, 24 hours per day.
The points made are sensationalist and often made without thought of reality, merely making the guests uncomfortable. He should make his own salary public in the discussion around taking pay cuts as a contribution to the nhs, rather than emphasise that a government minister should take a pay cut. It’s not apples for apples is it.