Ask my opinion again in 5 years or so.....Tools music is like some exotic food that you have to keep chewing and chewing and as you chew it keeps changing its taste....and each time it does,change its taste, it keeps tasting less and less like something you've tasted before then one day...just like that....there it is..a new taste ,a new smell a new taste you can hear!!.Or was it there before and my taste buds just weren't refined enough to enjoy.....either way like all Tools music i need to chew on it for awhile and its impolite to talk with my mouth full!!!......Danger-Russ