Just saw Joker 2, and man, Joker 1 was a lightning in a bottle. There was no need for a sequel.
The film is so bad I can't even think of any pros, just cons.
Cons:
Musicals. I am not a huge fan of Musical fan, BUT I do believe musical movies can be done right. The Sound of Music, All that Jazz, La La Land, Mama Mia. Musicals can be done properly with good execution and seamless transition. This movie has none of that. The songs just don't fit and overall unnecessary considering that this is a film about JOKER. WHO thought it was a fantastic idea to make a Musical about Joker?
2. The plot. Where is it? What even is it? I don't know. The movie went nowhere, basically ran in a circle and then ended. There is no substance to the first movie, no depth, nothing. The movie is basically filler.
3. The theme. The most strange aspect of Joker 2 is its relentless focus on the theme of disappointment. Arthur Fleck is depicted as a disappointment to himself, the prisoners, the fans, and Harley. However, this thematic choice also leaves real-life fans of the Joker feeling let down. It almost serves as a metaphor – suggesting that the Joker was never destined to meet anyone’s expectations, and the film mirrors this by failing to satisfy its audience. In a way, it’s almost too avant-garde, missing the mark for viewers who paid to enjoy a film about the Joker, not to be part of a metaphor about Arthur’s inability to embody the Joker.
The sequel strips away much of the character development from the first movie, introducing a series of disjointed reasons for the Joker’s emergence. Initially, it was his parents, then societal and institutional bullying, and finally Harley. Why dedicate another entire film to his mental struggle when the first movie already established his transformation? It would have been more compelling to delve into how he truly met Harley and expanded his reign over Gotham.
4. Harley Quinn is ruined and the actors have no chemistry to speak of.
Harley should have been a therapist like the original, having the Joker mold a stable PhD smart lonely insecure girl into his obsessive lover/punching bag makes him more menacing and "close to home" instead of them just being two broken people inspired by each other..
5. The ending. It is just insultingly bad, almost surreal. I can't even express it in words properly. It is so bad. Everything is just pointless in the end.
1/10. Godawful movie. Should have never been made.