All these bad reviews legit make no sense it must be rival game companies trying to bring them down a level because I've played 6 hours now and really enjoy it they kept the old stuff added grappler/wall climbing, plus air glider. The gun play is fluid no frame drops during gameplay on performance mode and Vex is just pure fun. Hasn't crashed or had much wrong outside of one cutscene being a little jumpy other then that it's basically a 10 out of 10. People need to stop comparing the new to the old because we're in a different time of life... If you want to say how amazing borderlands 2 is and that this doesn't compare you are just wrong plus just play borderlands 2 if you don't like the changes. Borderlands 2 was good but 3 had better gameplay and 4 has even better gameplay then 3. Updates will fix problems that come possibly later in the game but as of now this is a 9.5/10 for me. Skill trees are nice also 3 trees split into 3 more so basically 9+ build options per character or more. Playing on Xbox series x btw can't speak for S people.