Its crazy how the first thing people bring up are the mistakes these guys have made. Just like you and me they are human, have they both done cringey dumb stuff? Yes of course. Is filming a body in the suicide forest or disrespecting a culture okay? Of course not. But what is okay is learning, growing, loving, and becoming the man you want to be. Itโs hilarious to me people want to constantly shoot down these two yet have done millions of greater things than you will ever do. And itโs not because of your own laziness, itโs because these two are the definition of grinders.